Comments on: Painting a way to a different place http://artandperception.com/2006/06/painting-a-way-to-a-different-place.html a multi-disciplinary dialog Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:25:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: bob http://artandperception.com/2006/06/painting-a-way-to-a-different-place.html#comment-212 bob Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:16:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/06/painting-a-way-to-a-different-place.html#comment-212 Very true! I do wonder if all of the incredible energy we have spent over the years learning what is right or wrong about art and painting gets in the way and the exhaustion is a welcome relief so that we can see for ourselves. It seems to simple but maybe the term we are looking for is “seeing”. Very true! I do wonder if all of the incredible energy we have spent over the years learning what is right or wrong about art and painting gets in the way and the exhaustion is a welcome relief so that we can see for ourselves. It seems to simple but maybe the term we are looking for is “seeing”.

]]> By: Karl Zipser http://artandperception.com/2006/06/painting-a-way-to-a-different-place.html#comment-211 Karl Zipser Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:32:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/06/painting-a-way-to-a-different-place.html#comment-211 I agree this "mode" seems to go with exhaustion at the end of a long painting session, but it is a funny sort of exhaustion where everything seems easy instead of difficult. And your point of "uncovering something that is already there vs. painting something that I've created" is very well said. I'm not a writer but I've play a bit with writing fiction and I find that getting into this feeling of "uncovering something that is already there" comes more easily in a story. Maybe this is because language is more a "material" of the mind, whereas a painter has to do a lot of groundwork before the painting can touch reality (or fantasy) in the same way as language can. That is not to say that raw paint is not stimulating in itself -- of course it is. But what we are focusing on here is where the material seems to dissolve into meaning. I agree this “mode” seems to go with exhaustion at the end of a long painting session, but it is a funny sort of exhaustion where everything seems easy instead of difficult. And your point of “uncovering something that is already there vs. painting something that I’ve created” is very well said.

I’m not a writer but I’ve play a bit with writing fiction and I find that getting into this feeling of “uncovering something that is already there” comes more easily in a story. Maybe this is because language is more a “material” of the mind, whereas a painter has to do a lot of groundwork before the painting can touch reality (or fantasy) in the same way as language can. That is not to say that raw paint is not stimulating in itself — of course it is. But what we are focusing on here is where the material seems to dissolve into meaning.

]]> By: bob http://artandperception.com/2006/06/painting-a-way-to-a-different-place.html#comment-210 bob Sun, 04 Jun 2006 13:22:00 +0000 http://www.artandperception.com/v01/2006/06/painting-a-way-to-a-different-place.html#comment-210 I think one of the reasons it takes a long time (a day or more) to get to this point is that this is when I am just flat out exhausted and stop thinking about what is right or wrong with what I am doing. I don't know what to call it but the feeling I have is that I am uncovering something that is already there vs. painting something that I've created. I think one of the reasons it takes a long time (a day or more) to get to this point is that this is when I am just flat out exhausted and stop thinking about what is right or wrong with what I am doing. I don’t know what to call it but the feeling I have is that I am uncovering something that is already there vs. painting something that I’ve created.

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