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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/09/seeing-through-art-by-jay.html#comment-71670</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Suus:

Just so we are on the same page, are you referring to the invisible painting in the photograph? As far as I can see, Lucio Fontana made only one painting titled Concetto Spaziale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Suus:</p>
<p>Just so we are on the same page, are you referring to the invisible painting in the photograph? As far as I can see, Lucio Fontana made only one painting titled Concetto Spaziale.</p>
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		<title>By: Suus</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/09/seeing-through-art-by-jay.html#comment-71566</link>
		<dc:creator>Suus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!

I'm a student from Holland, and I had to find some art for an assignment on school. But I have a question. Is this really from Lucio Fontana, or is it just a re-make? And is the name really Concetto Spaziale?
Because I found some other art with the same name..?

I hope you can help me!

Suus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a student from Holland, and I had to find some art for an assignment on school. But I have a question. Is this really from Lucio Fontana, or is it just a re-make? And is the name really Concetto Spaziale?<br />
Because I found some other art with the same name..?</p>
<p>I hope you can help me!</p>
<p>Suus</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/09/seeing-through-art-by-jay.html#comment-35948</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one goes way over my head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one goes way over my head&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/09/seeing-through-art-by-jay.html#comment-34976</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunil:

I would assert that political cartoonists continue to influence opinion. It's art in the public domain, rather than in galleries, that is having an impact. Some Danish cartoonists might agree with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunil:</p>
<p>I would assert that political cartoonists continue to influence opinion. It&#8217;s art in the public domain, rather than in galleries, that is having an impact. Some Danish cartoonists might agree with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunil Gangadharan</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/09/seeing-through-art-by-jay.html#comment-34964</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunil Gangadharan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,
Again, isn’t it sad that you draw the examples of creative outpourings that are atleast 30 years old. All of the events mentioned by me above relate to pressing conditions today and provoke little artistic response from the great artists of the world. Or maybe I am missing the whole thing... 

Agreed Al Gore's movie did make a beginning in fostering the debate on global warming and Michael Moore's movie 'Sicko' (even if parts of it are questionable) talks about the healthcare issue... but the examples are few and far between and I have to count them on the fingers of my hand… 
And we claim to be living in a decade where we are confronted with multiple matters of universal importance and feel more ‘digitally connected’ than ever…

I recently went to a drugstore to get eye drops for my mother (who was visiting us from India and hence had no insurance). She suffers from ocular hypertension and needs the drops daily. I paid about 200 dollars for 2 milliliters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,<br />
Again, isn’t it sad that you draw the examples of creative outpourings that are atleast 30 years old. All of the events mentioned by me above relate to pressing conditions today and provoke little artistic response from the great artists of the world. Or maybe I am missing the whole thing&#8230; </p>
<p>Agreed Al Gore&#8217;s movie did make a beginning in fostering the debate on global warming and Michael Moore&#8217;s movie &#8216;Sicko&#8217; (even if parts of it are questionable) talks about the healthcare issue&#8230; but the examples are few and far between and I have to count them on the fingers of my hand…<br />
And we claim to be living in a decade where we are confronted with multiple matters of universal importance and feel more ‘digitally connected’ than ever…</p>
<p>I recently went to a drugstore to get eye drops for my mother (who was visiting us from India and hence had no insurance). She suffers from ocular hypertension and needs the drops daily. I paid about 200 dollars for 2 milliliters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/09/seeing-through-art-by-jay.html#comment-34958</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunil:

Why don't you expand this theme into a post? I'm serious - it's a good item of discussion. 

I would think that terms like relevance, utility, appropriateness, importance would fit here. And I believe that the discussion should encompass a broad scope of artistically-oriented activities. 

If I am correct, you are asking what a mere artist can do in the face of all that. A simple response would be that images have changed thinking, and by extension, the course of events. You may have seen that image of a naked and burned little girl running down a road in Vietnam. That one picture did more than a horde of hippies to turn the American public against the war. Soon after WWII a political cartoonist by the name of Herblock, came up with a depiction of the atom bomb as a dirty thug, and thereby began a process of demystifying  the nasty device. Yes, it was the subject matter speaking, but also the vivacity and sheer visual power through which its voice was heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunil:</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you expand this theme into a post? I&#8217;m serious - it&#8217;s a good item of discussion. </p>
<p>I would think that terms like relevance, utility, appropriateness, importance would fit here. And I believe that the discussion should encompass a broad scope of artistically-oriented activities. </p>
<p>If I am correct, you are asking what a mere artist can do in the face of all that. A simple response would be that images have changed thinking, and by extension, the course of events. You may have seen that image of a naked and burned little girl running down a road in Vietnam. That one picture did more than a horde of hippies to turn the American public against the war. Soon after WWII a political cartoonist by the name of Herblock, came up with a depiction of the atom bomb as a dirty thug, and thereby began a process of demystifying  the nasty device. Yes, it was the subject matter speaking, but also the vivacity and sheer visual power through which its voice was heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunil Gangadharan</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/09/seeing-through-art-by-jay.html#comment-34949</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunil Gangadharan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,
The deficiency of a clear directed creative response to overwhelming events like climate change, the divvying up of the arctic into economic profit making zones, the little understood war we are fighting over in Iraq, or the naked appropriation of global cultures in the name of consumerism clearly means that artists have stopped thinking about making work that serves a purpose, a meaning, a function. 
This does not mean that it is dead - it just means that we are going through a stasis in the creative world before artists make work that can be reflective and be capable of registering change and its effects on the society.

I did realize the subversive tone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,<br />
The deficiency of a clear directed creative response to overwhelming events like climate change, the divvying up of the arctic into economic profit making zones, the little understood war we are fighting over in Iraq, or the naked appropriation of global cultures in the name of consumerism clearly means that artists have stopped thinking about making work that serves a purpose, a meaning, a function.<br />
This does not mean that it is dead - it just means that we are going through a stasis in the creative world before artists make work that can be reflective and be capable of registering change and its effects on the society.</p>
<p>I did realize the subversive tone&#8230;</p>
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