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	<title>Comments on: Do or die list for artists</title>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/10/do-or-die-list-for-artists.html#comment-40849</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,

You have this delightfully annoying habit of writing comments that surpass in depth and style the posts they refer to.

&lt;em&gt;The worst thing is a second or third rate product, to which you have attached undue personal importance and which will cause you heartache in the end.&lt;/em&gt;

In the past I used to paint over a picture many times, applying a new layer of white oil paint to obscure the second or third rate product underneath. The surface became interesting with time. Dan Bodner was inspired by these canvases. Before he begins a painting, he applies a thick layer of cream-colored oil paint with a plaster trowel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>You have this delightfully annoying habit of writing comments that surpass in depth and style the posts they refer to.</p>
<p><em>The worst thing is a second or third rate product, to which you have attached undue personal importance and which will cause you heartache in the end.</em></p>
<p>In the past I used to paint over a picture many times, applying a new layer of white oil paint to obscure the second or third rate product underneath. The surface became interesting with time. Dan Bodner was inspired by these canvases. Before he begins a painting, he applies a thick layer of cream-colored oil paint with a plaster trowel.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/10/do-or-die-list-for-artists.html#comment-40503</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, now in the case of the waterfalls series, that felt like my own from the beginning, not that millions hadn't done their own versions before, and your lovely Flume after. I was thinking of the junkyard weathered paint and the horses, also subjects done before by many, but I drew inspiration from those I credited in my first posts on those projects (Tom Ferris and Kathe Lesage, respectively). I do feel I've moved beyond the initial influences, though that might not be obvious to everyone. And the work is still in progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, now in the case of the waterfalls series, that felt like my own from the beginning, not that millions hadn&#8217;t done their own versions before, and your lovely Flume after. I was thinking of the junkyard weathered paint and the horses, also subjects done before by many, but I drew inspiration from those I credited in my first posts on those projects (Tom Ferris and Kathe Lesage, respectively). I do feel I&#8217;ve moved beyond the initial influences, though that might not be obvious to everyone. And the work is still in progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/10/do-or-die-list-for-artists.html#comment-40497</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

I sent you a picture of the Flume in the White Mountains. A thousand cameras had captured that scene this year alone. I still feel ownership of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>I sent you a picture of the Flume in the White Mountains. A thousand cameras had captured that scene this year alone. I still feel ownership of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Durbin</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/10/do-or-die-list-for-artists.html#comment-40409</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Durbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad it's OK to steal, I seem to do that all too often. Generally with a significant twist. And always on long-term projects that are all about developing my own approach as I go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s OK to steal, I seem to do that all too often. Generally with a significant twist. And always on long-term projects that are all about developing my own approach as I go.</p>
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		<title>By: birgit</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/10/do-or-die-list-for-artists.html#comment-40404</link>
		<dc:creator>birgit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol,

You inspire me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol,</p>
<p>You inspire me.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true.  I have copied the list to keep and look at when feeling disheartened.  I think that as long as you are happy and growing you are doing the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true.  I have copied the list to keep and look at when feeling disheartened.  I think that as long as you are happy and growing you are doing the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://artandperception.com/2007/10/do-or-die-list-for-artists.html#comment-40387</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl:

This post is hot!

In reference to another post, I would have to say that a key element in your audience is a hard critic and taskmaster who is constantly looking over your shoulder - even if only through your own eyes. This "person" must be obeyed, even when you are compelled to slash and burn and otherwise prevented from falling in love with your output. The worst thing is a second or third rate product, to which you have attached undue personal importance and which  will cause you heartache in the end. 

I believe that an artist, known to be self-critical, makes it easier on his or her audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl:</p>
<p>This post is hot!</p>
<p>In reference to another post, I would have to say that a key element in your audience is a hard critic and taskmaster who is constantly looking over your shoulder - even if only through your own eyes. This &#8220;person&#8221; must be obeyed, even when you are compelled to slash and burn and otherwise prevented from falling in love with your output. The worst thing is a second or third rate product, to which you have attached undue personal importance and which  will cause you heartache in the end. </p>
<p>I believe that an artist, known to be self-critical, makes it easier on his or her audience.</p>
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